Originally Posted by Jetcane
I still dont get the labelling of fans who make any mention of CP. Well, actually I do. it’s agenda driven, and also fueled by irrational hatred of a player that the team chose to sign and the CS chose to play. I’ll bet that the same guys who hate CP also hated McC for “costing the Jets a win” in Baltimore when he dropped the passes. You’re right, it only would have forced OT, and there was no guarantee of the Jets doing anything after that point.
Originally Posted by #27TheDominator
Why does anybody who mentions Chad get labelled? The comparison of Chad and Clemens is valid for one reason: Chad was having a very poor season with the exact same team. The job Chad did was unacceptable. I heard dozens of stories about how the record would be so much better if Clemens were the QB from week 1. The fact is, Clemens grades are still incomplete, but if we are going to draw conclusions I’m not so happy that he simply cannot put the ball in the endzone. I read that Pennington was “an immobile statue with zero pocket presence” yet this kid gets dropped way more often. Does that mean we should put Pennington back in? No, but I’m not going into next season expecting Clemens to be the next Peyton Manning.
For the record, Peyton Manning struggled as a rookie but threw 25+ tds and for over 3,700 yards, Clemens has thrown 4 tds in a half season. Also, if McCareins caught that ball against Baltimore the Jets would not have been winning, they’d have been tied. I wouldn’t have held my breath expecting them to pull out a win in OT.
Originally Posted by Jetcane
Good post, Dom.
I still dont get the labelling of fans who make any mention of CP. Well, actually I do. it’s agenda driven, and also fueled by irrational hatred of a player that the team chose to sign and the CS chose to play. I’ll bet that the same guys who hate CP also hated McC for “costing the Jets a win” in Baltimore when he dropped the passes. You’re right, it only would have forced OT, and there was no guarantee of the Jets doing anything after that point.
the best argument for playing KC after the season went down the tubes is to at least see what he’s got. Though overall the Jets have drafted well, not all of their draftees have turned out well, so he still has to prove himself on the field.
On one hand, he has made some strides, considering he hasnt stepped into an ideal situatiion. The OL is weak, the playcalling has been bad and his WRs have been injured. He hasnt completely bombed to the point where everyone can say he is a bust.
On the other hand, he’s thrown nine picks and only 4 TDs, and only Dilfer and Alex Smith have lower QB ratings.
But it’s only a handful of games, on a lower echelon team, and it’s too soon to make a final judgment. While people can have opinions as to whether he has “it” or not based on what they’ve seen, that really isnt enough to decide whether he is the future QB or not. He does need more time, probably through next season. If he looks like crap a year from now, the verdict will be pretty clear.
Here’s another thing, #27. If the Jets bulk up their OL, which also gets the running game going, and the defense plays from week one instead of showing up after the bye week again, he will be in a better situation to lead the team and progress.
The irony of that is that when people suggested that CP needed a better OL to play better, and a defense that doesnt make the trent edwards and Kyle Bollers of the league look like all-stars, the Clemens fans claimed that CP stunk no matter what was surrounding him. Now, they are quick to offer the same reasons why KC needs a better supporting cast around him to play better.
You may not be overly impressed with KC right now, but i think he has shown enough to deserve more time before we make any snap judgments about him.